The peasants have reason to be revolting

 You may think that the rural purges of Stalinist Russia ,Communist China, Rwanda, Serbia,Sudan  and Cambodia were really really bad, but the demon that drove them has not left us. 
There are still tyrants who are taking over land that is not theirs (and they are not just  in northern Europe ) These tyrants are all occupying positions of authority over land they do not own in England , Australia, Europe and America. 

The new owners in the West take over in much more subtle ways than the above . They  even change the ownership balance to prevent 'ownership: concepts like the leaders did when they rid Europe of serfs .
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These arrogant newcomers assume authority over our land management decisions . They  get away with it because they do it so nicely and with all the justification of their idea that our/your world is in danger. They claim their territory in the name of science even though they don't practice science properly

Those of us online here question deeply what they really know and beyond that , whether their medicine will work even on the sores they identify, AS practical real world risk takers who KNOW the complexity of ecosystem protection and how to manage them , we simply do not accept their "the last word "on risk and eco management, as the way forward. We need to stop the wasted bleeding and get some healing; some more resilience discussions and how to find it conversations and legs on the ground .

The huge dilemma farmers have always managed in trying to look after all the animals on their land is symbolized for me in this mature lamb still getting milk from its mother. I have a blog on childrenincharge

The mature mothers and fathers looking on would scratch their heads , if they could,

at such behavior.

What we are calling for   - is sound fully scientific management of the spaces.

Men can live with nature and the new places provided we keep our demands within the ecological limits.  Censure, dependency  and indulgence is not right when a proper balance can restore resilient and sustainable order.  

WE do not accept the simple answer is" no more  harvesting of  life at a mature age" ( Which is not a cop out , but a part answer to freedom from the pain of life ; it's inevitable grief separation and death ) WE  want freedom of the immediate carer and his community to make care filled decisions; and for them and us to enjoy, instead of just grief and pain, the joy of providing food, caring for their ecosystems and seeing new life grow safely within them.  

You should be aware that

unless Westerners turn much of their investment money that they currently spend on researching and reducing their fears (and forgetting about helping produce resilience using known science), the noise from the fearmongers, and the new fiddlers around the edge of the fears, will dominate. 

Because most of the current research is party politically driven and reactionary it cannot be expected to be productive. That means whatever happens our children  will have less productive surplus based investment opportunities than we have had.

The trouble with dams

Maybe Bob Brown was right about one thing. That is that - it's possible to have too many dams. 
Trouble is,the one good point he made seems to have stopped him realizing that he is still as silly , reactive and as ignorant as most of us; He has not shown any wisdom by resisting the trend in our age to give all dams a bad name.
Worse, as a movement. like so many baby Greens shoots, they think they know enough to work in the court of human beings when their misanthropy, immaturity, pride and ignorance will only ever create war with the deep truths of nature. And their pride continues to stand in the road of those who know how its profound chemistry and physics must be studied and respected first. 
They too of course, like most of us, forget the toughest and most evil beast of all; human nature itself.
Jung said the only remaining problem for man is man himself.
Ellul ( The Technological Society) said that technology is not the problem, but our worship of it is.    

THE FLOODS OF early 2020's
Not one of our polys have never known what they are doing here with wonderful water, but they keep fiddling and meddling with flows, walls and gates. Finally in 2020's, God had the last say and allowed the horse to bolt in its naturally productive time honored way.  
Yet nobody, with this decisive dramatic truth being exposed, is now happy.
Nobody is now sure whether they want rejuvenation when it's at the cost of huge floods, silt and bedload movement, but that is exactly what is needed to reset the redgum and the other seeds in the wetlands.

Make up your minds people .  Nature says one thing and you should listen first to it .but then ,

Men, made in the image of the Creator may say another . 
Our dam creations have, for the first time in decades, played their noninterventionist role by just being pools in the stream flow. Our gates were never going to be opened enough to even create the Environmental Pissing Flows planned by Burke and other burk's, so the huge events needed to get wetlands to rejuvenate, meant the storages stayed close to full till this summer,
Naturally, because of the perversity of men's minds and the predictability of natural forces, these very useful drought, irrigation, power and flood detention storages remain close to full because no one dares to create the sort of flood, bed loads and silt deposition that upsets those riverside visitors who haven't yet lived there long enough to know how to really live with and respect nature. 

Hypocrites who refuse to act for the long term, but will pretend they care,

What a complete twat is Mr Murray Watt--  the new Labor man who wants to play the good shepherd.  He needs to go read the Bible .  He would then realize that the good shepherd KNOWS sheep . 

Federal Labor want to score some points with their own worry warriors in the city.  

They think that old age animals with no teeth (to get a feed in the paddock  ) should not go on well fed cruises where they finally get fat .
The worriers know this , the aged might lie down and not get up  just like they would if they were left to starve in the paddock with younger sheep with better teeth.

Labor haven't learnt anything since Ludwig saved the world

.... and neither have the press 
The sentimentalists want to end the live sheep trade. 

Albo is getting desperate and we in the country can all see the shallowness of his preoccupations . He can't visit the NT ,but he can go to Sandiland's wedding 

Show some respect for farmers, the sheep and vets and make sure they have a good trip !
More of the story here 

What Watts and Marles and his mates have done this week is just to try and stay in power --- to sound caring!
These desperadoes know to press the pain button will get them votes. 
 The only criteria a good conservationist and any realistic adult knows is". Will the pain last?"
If its short term gain at the expense of long term...... its wrong 
Greenlabor are desperate enough to shore up their sinking sentimentally laden ship with an appeal to care for the sheep.
If only they were intelligent and strong enough sheep to really stand up for them 
Richard Marles and Murray Watt don't even know the truth "That it takes one to know one " 




Now this man cares for his sheep . notice how closely the young animals graze 



Posted today 

To Minister Murray Watts 

I understand you are about to deny my parents and grandparents their well earned pension and overseas  cruise, complete with the best food and water they will ever taste.. 

You are clearly blind and sentimental twats who deny death  and are happy to let our dear ones starve;Desperately looking for some simple self righteous sentimental appeal to the masses that is as thin as your understanding of tough old nature.  

You clearly  don't realize that without their teeth they will slowly starve here in the paddock with us and any discomfort you think they suffer is overstated  because like you , the overly worried and over protected, being fed and watered and having a place to lie down is nearly everything. .

You said and did nothing when hundreds of thousands of kangaroos  died of starvation all across Australia a few years ago because you know not how to care .   

On behalf of the family    

Hugh Sheep 

signed also by the farmer who they trust and are walking towards 

To call your right to deny our fun a mandate is to show yourself as ignorant and arrogant  as the Agricultural ministers before you ,
A correspondent suggests that the Labor party are delusional to think 1/3 of the vote is a MANDATE 

IF YOU STILL HAVEN"T GOT IT - mature sheep will starve in the paddock BECAUSE the shorter grass is obtained by younger sheep,  The same thing happens to all animals who live in the savannah,
------by allowing this closure you are not HONORING FARMERS VETS and INDUSTRY 

The greatest evil in protecting the earth is NOW done in the name of the best intention of saving it .

 Edmund Burke's great quote could be refined for our age in a form that should shock both conservatives and progressives alike  - in May 2020 we have never seen such a mockery of the competence required to  work  well with nature .The hardest management job we  and our children will face is presumed to be in the hands of polys  and their use of our ever diminishing tax basis  Thinking is no longer required .   

Despite the gigantic budget of Australian governments spent in the name of the environment, there has never been so few independent well trained scientists to ensure the incentives and cutting are done well enough to produce a sustainable result. The wastage on treeplanting and other tokens ad old tech in previous decades alone sets the scene for this latest nonsense that governments NOW know what is needed.   
 
The greatest evil in protecting the earth is NOW done in the name of best intention of saving it .
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I could make a long list
 but let me just remind you that government's have neevr been so carless with their cutting.

The completely incompetent Albanese government legislates to allow bureaucrats and lawyers to make decisions solely on the basis of how they affect our production of carbon dioxide..
Instead of spelling out actions,  his completely woke lot trust that the magic formulae of 43 % will work magic . It won't work and all those who try to work with such indecision and incompetence  will be corrupted b their ineffectiveness. 

I am in too much grief over this totally unscientific approach to resource management to say any more Please ask questions /

Treaty - can you trust even a Westerner to keep his written word ?

While I love our tradition of law,  I would never trust a lawyer or the law without its principle .
And who says a mere title gives you licence to do what you like ?. Real estate is  make believe territory,  whatever your land ambitions and race . 
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Of all the people I think we should NOT trust its  those with  the narrowminded idea who insist on property rights because the  Western liberal tradition does not worship the power that property / territory gives people but is  ONLY EVER  meant to be USED  TO HONOR the responsibility  it gives people to share the benefits of it . The aboriginal fisherwoman in the picture knew and honored this  

Without the latter,  our faith says take away both if the latter is ignored . 
Any treaty that doesn't bring the above consensus won't be worth the paper its printed on . 

Before Australians will agree to a treaty they need to share something deeper than the law of property rights  themselves . The territorial imperative is natural and a useful diver but IT IS not binding in on- ground terms for humans ( territorial responsibility is a burden too )
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Think inspirationally . We can, should and have learned to share the territory. That's the sort of sharing we can and should celebrate . Diversity of tasks not diversity of rights .Unity of property rights as we all own it all - called a commonwealth.
If you want more than you have. ask God for it -- not me !

The division of labor that industrialization has brought us all,  is a basically a good thing.  Harking back to the past is only helpful if we take what is good and necessary from it , And there is good there - no doubt about it , The quickfixers  and blame in colonialization (Half full = training in new ways ) must be resisted because change can have its half full side .  
East ,West and Aboriginal are sources of good things to bring forward 
Lets bring us all forward and not fall for the wasted old and childish nonsense of us all having our own little empires. Competition alone achieves nothing .
Vaclav Smil's   book on "How the world really works"  sets out a  framework that works and can be used to guide us through many of the remaining threats . Building on foundations is what adults do not idealistically falling for every new progress idea sold in the media.

Dynasties are dumb and done for . Note how adults who have never grown up still believe in them 

There is no going back to subsistence . We have to build family beyond the dependency of space control .
The great challenge for the future then is how to fish carefully with bigger boats and still adopt the ownership and stewardship traditions of the past.   
The wonderful story of the aboriginal fisherwoman of Benelong.

The best view to take when threatened is the ecological view

 March 9th 2020
RE Coronavirus concerns    Finally some sense ?

B4 any wannabe thinks he/she  is going to calm us all down - just remember what group we don t trust 

I love the fact that a doctor and the AMA are finally taking a Minister to task re panic over virus managemnet .

Lets hear from the senior chief medical health officer as well!!!!!!

I really wish we ecologists had a Senior environmental Health Officer to stop polys opening their bigmouths so wide and so often.

Modern leaders seem to think they know things and it's their job to educate us , Rubbish, 

They know nothing about the complex matters of health care.

By using ads with simple catch ideas , they show their incompetence and perpetuate ignorance and simplicity ,

Just one example 

This preoccupation with sanitizing is too simple .

When I did microbiology at the best University  in Australia we were taught NOT to wash hands too often and why . Disinfection was a site for reinfection with all sorts of new tenants that were often not better than the family ( ecology of the skin and air ) we killed.

UPDATES   MAY 2020

Certain practices have become accepted because they reflect popular prejudices not professional wisdom. 

Management class issues ; The ascendancy in the West has been to manage others not educate them , This feeds our desire to be experts about others needs and jobs and "ideas " they must take on " 

Hand sanitizers 

60% alcohol,  if you use on your hands all the time will take away much of the oils and colonies that normally live on your skin .You  are best to keep your hands clean but don't keep offering new tenants a place at your house   . 

UPDATE OCT 2020 We here in Victoria have been in relative  lockdown for over six  months with Melbourne people unable to visit and move for several months causing a massive economic shock .

Our Premier and Police minster Lisa Neville have taken to policing all aspects of behavior and have managed to get a very high level of cooperation,  

Not enough space here to list how thinking people respond to their governments quickly convened workshop sessions where they brainstorm what they  think we should do,
What we can say about the Victorian Department of Hairbrained Halfbaked  Suggestions  ( DHHS) is that they really feel bad about making so many  heartbreakingly heavy hammer  solutions  

Noone yet has been able to burst their bubble  , One DrAndrew Lemming has said" there is no credible risk assessment involved "  and that appears to be spot on  to their ongoing chasing of the wind of death triggers.  

This highly infectious disease hasn't changed in 50 yrs and  is not very virulent or long lasting but Mr Andrews would like to chase it around the country anyway

The truly scary thing is that the East Melbourne bubble who advise him do not seem to know what they are doing either . The ABC trust bubbles while SKY news is onto them  

If nothing else the Victorian government  have kept their  police and people busy  by wearing masks and keeping a safe distance ; except of course if you work for the taxpayer or a union , or are in the limelight.

Update  19th October 2020
As of this date 19th October 2020 Mr Andrews  is still not sure of his aim .Is his aim to eradicate the virus  or for us to live with it ? No one knows even though he holds long press conferences every other day >

.Thankfully the people are starting to realise the ecological view is probably sound " to : live with it ;' 

All Mr Andrews talk of dark clouds and more tsunamis dissipates when we properly analyse the cost of the last wave  .  

The chief shock Jock  premier Daniel Andrews has made it his mantra that we and we are saving lives  because his collection of particular facts enables HIM to be the best informed on  where the wolf is at any moment . 

Wolf sightings are not common but because people are NOW too afraid to report a possible sighting  because they will be locked  for 14 the innovative ideas man is down to sampling Sh and finding evidence of evildoers there. 

 

The children can tell you all about problems, but it takes real leaders to find solutions

If you want some clarity on the real risks in forest management consult those on the ground . " Facebook : : Fire and the Australian Environment "

Things have got so catastrophic with incompetent political management that when there iss REAL risk -  many of us who used to try to save lives are no longer willing to go into the bush.  While the current management paradigms operate its pathetically PC ( don't cut anything or touch anything ) reactive , hypocritical( few insist on proper protective buffers for houses and roadsetc 

There aren't a lot of experienced and capable people talking on that site because the noise from the speculators and cynics is deafening and persistent .
Not being really  listened to " Notalk"   is a precursor to suicide. One 2 one please